'The Punisher’ and ‘The Bear’ star Jon Bernthal joins the show. Over pancakes and avocado toast, Jon tells me about making his Broadway debut in ‘Dog Day Afternoon’ and why he still gets terrified before each show. Plus, he reflects on being associated with hyper-masculine roles and being able to tell a different kind of love story on stage. We can’t leave without talking about our time together on the short-lived CBS sitcom, ‘The Class.’ This episode was recorded at Lume in NYC’s West Village. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices